I find your post on out of body experiences very interesting. I have heard a few people here talk about floating out, walking around etc. My experience has been very different… I had to think about where I wanted to go ( a person), and I got there very quickly (tunnel like). I guess it’s what people refer to as a “walk in” Entering someone else’s body (hearing and seeing what they do). Has anyone else ever done this?

I found this a while back (don’t remember where), it gave me a bit of comfort … maybe it will do the same for you. Your not alone.

Part 14: The Abductees’ World

Abductees live in a strange world. They have a series of bizarre experiences which, if they are unaware of the connection to the abduction phenomenon, can constitute a world that others do not recognize. They see ghosts routinely, their relatives come back from the dead to give them a message. They travel on the astral plane, they have unwanted and unexpected out of body experiences, they have guardian angels, devils plague them, balls of light terrorize them. They see religious figures. They might be in one place and then seemingly a few seconds later they are in another place and they have no idea how they got there. They seem to be in touch with an “alternate reality.”

For many abductees, sleep can be filled with vivid dreams so life-like that they remain frightened of certain nightmares even years after they happened. They continually have what they interpret as “waking” or “lucid” dreams. They have bizarre paralysis at night that they interpret as hypnagogic or hypnopompic experiences. They have missing time sequences. They see UFOs.

To bad that there is no like button, Coz last one of yours is amazing. I am 100% with you in your opinion. Keep it up!

Like I said it is a matter of perspective. I have tagged and tracked animals for years and also undertook genetic studies and created transgenic individuals all for what we perceive as progress and understanding. For me to then reject that a similar process is done with me would make me a hypocrite of the worst kind. I understand how it seems to us, it’s invasive and uncomfortable but I guess I process it differently. Just because they have been coming here for eons does not mean they are not intelligent it just means they are observing and even perhaps responsible for where we are now??

I dare say we would probably behave in a similar way. Look how we are content to war with those of our own race. I am not at all a negative person I try to see positives in everything in life (war and murder is not an easy subject for me!…). One reason I joined these forums is to understand how it has affected others. So do not worry about offending me, I only want to learn.

I spoke to someone recently who had very negative encounters, they told me that when they insisted they would not be used for such negative purposes the visitations changed?? I am sure you have all done this but I thought I would mention it.

Remember we all experience this phenomena in different ways. No two stories are the same. They have similar aspects but vary in many respects. This I believe is due to our individual interpretation. I don’t like waking up in a light filled room at 2-30 am and being surrounded by pug ugly dwarf like creatures doing god knows what to me but I do find it fascinating and it has changed my world view. For me this is a good thing, for others it won’t be, that is the nature of our divergent views.

I can’t stop these things happening I would just like to give a different perspective and try to help in anyway I can.

Giles

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hmm. I was never told to be mentally ill. I wanted to go to a clinical psychologist once for hypnosis which was actually prevented by beings but i was not declared mentally ill.

Also due, to some circumstances i had to tell school counselor about my alien encounters ( she is my psychology teacher as well ) and she was shocked. Her first words were, ” You are too smart and talented and… There can’t be anything wrong with you! You are just… Just, Way too normal”. She wanted to talk about my experiences but i got very emotional I also made her sign some paper telling that she won’t tell anything to principal who is a psychologist as well. Since i went back to normal after one of my experiences which i had at that time, she just left me. She said it ok as long as i can cope with it. For the first time in my life I understood as to how difficult it is to be a contactee or whatever you may call it.
She just could not get it. No history of abuse, mental illness, drugs or even boyfriends. She actually believed me and still does but i prefer not to talk about it.

I have also seen something that you called dark energy. I did not feel dark or evil. To be frank i was first confused and then scared because i could not understand its’ intention. I could see it but felt nothing from it. It never spoke to me when i was awake but i had dreams coz of it and i always woke up instantly after i received message from it and the ” shadow” was there.
Somehow it seems to be more physical than balls of light and other things that i see most often

I am not religious either when I referred to God and Jesus it was because my subconscious told me it was them. I documented everything in my case even though it may have made me look ridiculous. I am a very spiritual person and I knew this before I even heard of Ernest Holmes. Evil to me means someone who demands I live my life how they want me to live it. Evil to me is someone who takes away my personal rights and personal space. Evil to me is something that tortures me without telling me why I am being tortured. Evil is someone who demands I like who they want me to like or in other words they want to take away my personal choice I was born with.

Giles I too saw a dark energy in my bedroom or in my most personal space on Earth. It looked like a big male Being and as I looked at it, it disappeared. I jumped out of bed to see where it went too. As I walked down the hall my upper thigh started burning and itching intensely. When I scratched the spot a round piece of skin came off in my fingernail. I know they take our blood because I have found these sealed holes with round pieces of skin all over my body located near a vein.

In responding to your post I hope you don’t get offended I just look at the entire Alien issue as being negative. If they have been here for eons you have to think logically and that is why have they not revealed who they are unless they have something to hide. My beliefs are they have something to hide because they use us, they need us we do not need them.

If they are intelligent organisms how come they have not figured out how to live on their own without interfering in our lives. I suggest you visit Linda Moulton Howe’s website and read her articles on cattle mulitations.

The evil in this world is the denial of Beings who are affecting billions of lives negatively. I know they cause Depression Trips, Indigestion, and Tinnitus and I could go on and on with other symptoms. No one should be visiting us in our bedrooms.

In referrring to the Aliens I am not saying all of them are bloodsuckers. I do not know what the Agenda of the Greys is but I do know they Implant us and I highly reject the idea of being tracked like an animal. John Mack an Alien researcher says the Greys were in the business of creating Alien Hybrids and concerning my experience with the Greys I believe he was right on.

I had a lot of experiences with the small black ones and in my research they remind me of the Jinn. They are really mean and mischievous.

Aliens who experiment on Abductees who cut open the Abductees and install implants into our bodies without numbing us are not good benevolent Beings. I have passed out way to many times from pain.

On my second abduction I was taken to a ship moulded to a table and had something electrified placed on my head that felt like it was biting chunks out of my head that was so painful I passed out from the pain. The Beings I saw in this abduction were short or about 4 to 5 feet tall and they wore dark robes with hoods to hide their identity.

None of my experiences with these Beings was positive. I have been tortured by them everyday of my life for 15 years. I know if I became a Sheep like the rest of the world they would probably stop torturing me but that is not who I am.

Well that is part of my story and I just get very upset when someone tries to justify an evil existence. I get upset that there is no help and compassion for all the Abductees in this world and there are millions of us. I tried to find help. I went to a Doctor and within 15 minutes he declared me Mentally Ill simply because I told him I was abducted. The Evil in this world is the unbelief.

I have more evidence of an Abduction than anyone on the Net by way of photos. Do a search on Paranormal Viewer and I am not selling anything but the truth.

Now a few weeks later I am woken in bed by some of the short wrinkled skin type beings and I immediately started to panic. Then I kind of remembered what had happened before and I calmed myself down and just totally relaxed. Now I am not saying that this is the right way to approach this subject but we do seem to jump to negative conclusions about this stuff and it just as easilly be a positive thing. We do not really know the “agenda” some people will tell you they know but they do not. I can assure you they do not know because we do not know the agenda of our own kind, people we work with everyday and sometimes we dont even know our own reason for doing things. How many times have you reacted to something or done something and then hours later thought, gosh that was awful or goodness me that was selfish?? It may not be regular but sometimes even our own behaviours surprise us, but this does not make us evil or shallow or bad people it just means we are living.

No apply a bit of this to our visitors, the chance is they have survived thousands of years longer than the human race already. It is unlikely that they would get to that point if they were really “evil” as they would likely destroy themselves. It is likely that they are emotionless and view us with the same intrigue that we view apes, but no doubt have a deeper understanding of life/spirit than we do.

I know we hear about Lizards eating people and all that stuff but to be honest I think this is where paranoia takes over. I know too well how difficult it is to get on with life after these encounters and mine are relatively benign compared to many. The thing is (and this is the trick as far as I can see) its how you deal with it post experience that counts. I have accepted what has happened to me and I tell all my friends and my family, and also my work colleagues. They think I am a bit weird but I am very clear about my experiences and do not discuss the more imaginative aspects of it. This helps me live a normal life and helps those around me to question their particular reality. I was really surprised at how they took it. Mind you, I do not come from a religious area, I wont associate with those blinded by religion any more than I will those blinded by science. An open mind is what we need to understand these experiences. They are not demons and they are not Angels, they are intelligent organisms coming here to study and learn from us as we study and learn from the organisms around us.

This said, I want to make it quite clear that these are my interpretations of my encounters, they do not span other peoples experiences and how could they?? To experience is to understand, do label things good and bad they truly are just what they are.

Bored yet???

Love you guys

Giles

Your post reminded me of being tricked to jump off a huge mountain where we were playing games near the edge. I jumped off by accident but I don’t know what happened after that. I also remember riding on the back of one of the Hippie type Aliens (or the ones with the long hair that look human ) we were riding a sleigh off a mountain peak like the Alps. I was scared to death. I must have had a lot of trust issues and fears. I always feared water so they kept throwing me into the ocean, into flooded rivers and other waters. In real life I no longer fear water over my head.