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Secret Area 51 Facility in Southern Ohio

During an overnight radio program dedicated to taking calls from the listening audience from people who claim to have been employed at the famous secret-facility known as "Area-51," late- night host Art Bell received a caller who referenced a secret facility in Southern Ohio.

The anonymous caller to the Art Bell Radio Program, dated Friday night/Saturday morning, August 7 mentioned a 'secret facility' that was not directly a government agency, but 'under contract' from the government.

Beneath is the transcript of that discussion, which happened at 1 hour and 40 minutes into the program.

During an overnight radio program dedicated to taking calls from the listening audience from people who claim to have been employed at the famous secret-facility known as "Area-51," late- night host Art Bell received a caller who referenced a secret facility in Southern Ohio.

The anonymous caller to the Art Bell Radio Program, dated Friday night/Saturday morning, August 7 mentioned a 'secret facility' that was not directly a government agency, but 'under contract' from the government.

Beneath is the transcript of that discussion, which happened at 1 hour and 40 minutes into the program. __________

Art: East of the Rockies, you're on the air, good morning.

Caller: Good morning.

Art: How are you?

Caller: Very good, thanks, how are you?

Art: Fine.

Caller: Well, I don't directly work for a government agency but over the past 25 years, I have worked for companies that are under contract to the government, during the Star Wars era. And that I was thinking of two things in particular that are kind of interesting because they lead to things that are showing up now in the sky. One of them is in the 70s, there is a relationship between the company I work for and the government in working on ion propulsion, and in southern Ohio they had a large proving ground that was set up, they would buy an entire mountain and run power to the site. And for.. I guess it was almost 7 years it was a combination military and private installation, and that about every ten or fifteen days as soon as they could get it working they would fire up the engines and see what they could get out of it and try to figure out how they worked.

Art: In other words, back engineer it?

Caller: Yes, because essentially they didn't have any model to work from. Anyone who worked on the project was basically brought in to say, 'well, try to improve upon it and try to see if you can figure out how to make it useful.' And that none of us were allowed to really work with anyone else closely, you had small little nested groups, and you could work on your projects. But there was no real open communication, so it wasn't apparent until after-the-fact, in fact, as I think about it now, it was probably rather obvious but I didn't think about it at the time that no one knew how it worked.

Art: What did you actually see?

Caller: What I saw was essentially the frame and mountings with ion propulsion engines or motors or whatever you'd want to call...

Art: Slow up now, what mountings? Caller: The frames and the mountings so that it could be potentially put on a device. These things aren't terribly large and work on a rather basic principle, once you figure out what it is they are trying to do. Simply put and without saying to much, they take the space that is directly around the object and they make it so that it appears solid for just a very brief instant, and then it can push against in very small increments.

Art: That's intriguing. We're talking about a propulsion system.

Caller: Yes. And it requires a fair amount of energy to do it, but its not impossible by any means. In fact, Over the past couple of years they've made real progress with batteries like hydrogen cells that are putting out a small thing, something the size of a car, could have about 15 kilowatts of electricity, which is more than enough to run an ion propulsion system. Those things would run in a very amusing sense, like flying cars and things of that nature. But its not subject to the usual laws of the way projectile-style things like jets work. These things could kind-of nudge themselves around in any direction, and once they get moving, particularly outside the atmosphere, once they get moving, they're just kind of 'on their way.'

Art: I've been really looking forward to flying cars.

Caller: I have too, I've always enjoyed the late 40's early 50's view of the future because it always seemed really intriguing when I was young, because I thought "this is what the future is bound to be," and then I find myself in the 70s working on these things and thinking: 'boy I'm stupid here, I can't catch up with what these other people have designed and I don't know how it works,' and then later on in my life I realize that no one knew how they worked, we were all pretty much going blind.

Art: I used to have a little GEO metro, and I had a fellow up in Alaska who promised to send me a unit that would propel my GEO metro into the air. I've been looking forward to that, it still hasn't shown up.

Caller: I think a really large slingshot actually could do that.

Art: Laughs. Maybe a catapult.

Caller: Now the other company I worked for, which was actually about two-years into the Reagan Administration with the Star wars program...

Art: Yes.

Caller: The way it worked when you actually join the company was that, to prove that you could work in their environment they would bring you into a room that had a whole bunch of stuff. They would say, say choose something here, define what it is, explain how you think it works and see if you can do something with it. And they would give you about two weeks and "specked" you out and thought that you were actually capable of doing work for them, they would put a fair amount of time into testing you.

 

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Art: And what did they put you in with?

Caller: Yes

Art: And what did they put you in with?

Caller: Well, basically a lot of things I couldn't identify, but one thing that I was able to make use of, I didn't know what it was at the time, but what they ended up incorporating into the star Wars project was traveling wave tubes?

Art: Oh yes...

Caller: And, essentially, they really didn't have a good handle on them. They could manufacture them based on the templates. They didn't have a handle on them, but you could have as many of them as you wanted, if you wanted to work on it, and they were coming out of the factory at about 80,000 dollars apiece.

Art: Yeah, Traveling Wave Tubes are used in modern telecommunications satellite technology.

Caller: Exactly, and they have a lot of different purposes, for instance, they can be used in navigation at extremely high speeds. The funny thing about traveling wavetubes also is that is the technology that also goes behind pulsed beam weapons that you see in military/private installations. That it really is a sophisticated way of modulating a pulsed-beam that is pretty much just outside the X-ray band.

Art: Have you seen the STS-50 video?

Caller: Yes I have.

Art: What in God's name did we see emanate from the ground, toward space, in that video? That was legitimate STS video. The camera on the outside of the shuttle zoomed in to a city, it was obviously intentional, that whoever was operating the camera specifically wanted to see something from that city, and there was this incredible flash that moved at the speed of light into space. They got that, it took it, I've seen the video... then they panned back again. They were observing some kind of experiment on the ground.

Caller: Well essentially what they saw was a craft, and any craft that uses ion propulsion that is in a mode where it's actually preparing to leave the atmosphere, when it leaves from wherever it had been parked. If they intend it to leave the atmosphere, it leaves rather abruptly. It disrupts all of the area around it, as far as the way it looks optically.

Art: I'm sure it does.

Caller: And that it actually... for lack of a better term, it 'smears' the space around it. So that it makes it very hard to define what it would be. It moves at between 22 and 25 thousand miles per hour when it actually is in that mode.

Art: That would be... I'm trying to recall what escape velocity is, but it would be that or a little bit lower.

Caller: Right, but in the case of that video, that was just a fluke. I don't think they never intended ever to have that photograph.

Art: You would never know it from looking at that video. They had a pan of the great part of the globe. You could see them zoom in on a specific city, and they sat there and waited, and you saw this sudden flash go up. I have no idea what it was, but obviously they expected it to occur.

Caller: The funny thing is in all these situations is that there have always been a steady stream of leaks come out, in one form or another. For instance, I don't consider what I'm doing now to be divulging anything and I don't think anyone in the different agencies could care about what I'm saying, because...

Art: Well you may find out about that later tonight.

Caller: I was going to say that you'll come and visit me in jail, right?

Art: Laughs. I'll bring you a cake with your file...

Caller: But I think in the case of that film, I think its also a good example of a leak or a good case of ineptitude of people in upper administration. I've always been amazed at how you don't see people just shooting at their feet and walking into doorways and things like that, because they're pretty stupid in other strategic senses. You'll find that in an agency where they're supposed to be maintaining very, very strict protocol, that some people will pick up a cell-phone that's a regular good-ole cell phone and call home and say 'honey, I'm going into that private installation" or whatever, and I'm just appalled at times when I see that.

Art: I appreciate you telling us what you have, and I hope you remain free.

Caller: Thank you.

Art: Take care, my friend.

Caller: You too, bye.

Art: Bye.

End of transcript

Comment: This call lends further intrigue to the GE/PEEBLE TEST OPERATION located in Adams County, Ohio. This facility, situation within Peach Mountain, has previously been rumored to be a top-secret test area where unusual projects have been under development.

Radio hosts Dale Sommers (Truckin' Bozo) and Bill Cunningham or 700 WLW spoke about the Adams County facility nightly for several months in 1994. The right-wing talk show hosts referenced the facility in context with a 'New World Order' conspiracy against America, and announced their suspicions that the facility is a makeshift 'concentration camp' where black helicopters are frequently seen landing. Their attention to this facility resulted in a front-page article in the Cincinnati Post when a phone call from Leon Panetta, then White House Chief of Staff, was allegedly placed to the 700 WLW radio station. According to on-air comments made by Bill Cunningham, Leon Panetta requested that both Sommers and Cunningham not make any further reference to the GE/Peebles Test Operation on their program. Since this episode, neither have referenced Adams County, Ohio on their radio programs.

Filed: August 19, 1998 Kenny Young -- UFO Research

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